Judgments

[Frisianland]

If you see a black man with a flashy car is he's a gangster! If you saw a person with old clothes is that person poor?

Judgments is a Christian's biggest sin, if you see a raggedy man or woman in church, do you think "what is that person doing in a CHRISTIAN place!"

Many Christians seem to use the bible against Atheists and Criminals, it says in the bible, don't take the splinter out of someone else's eye, take the plank out of YOUR eye!!
My Grandma is the same, she calls me a blaspheme for saying oh my GOSH!!! but SHE says ! oh my lord".

I have since been wanting to write a church service like this to see that Christians who think their perfect, but argues back at their PARENTS ( Well done, you have just broke a commandment) but says its a small fault. A Fault is a Fault, A Conscious Fault in a human is a SIN .

[falklands]

Thank you for writing the service, but whatever you do, please avoid making this turn into a rant, or in the case of the other one you posted, something with a minimal amount of substance.

Just a few comments on the post -

Why are judgments a Christian's biggest sin? I have met plenty of people who are very humble and wouldn't make any of those judgments that you first wrote of.

It is one of the first things we should know anyway that we as Christians know that we are not perfect. I don't think anyone, if they look at it rationally, would truly be convinced that they are perfect. Much of the time it is rather a case of stubbornness.

Also, please be careful in talking about your Grandma in a way that is not conducive to edification.

In Christ,

Falklands

[steelsheen]

I agree with your point of view, Friesenland, not your delivery. Tempting as it has been to me to write what you just did, (to specific! people who are not on this board) to do that would be to open ourselves up for well-deserved judgment.

You have a good point, but tell me, didn't you judge these people to be judgmental?

Christ also said 'Love one another' and in proverbs it says that he that covereth a matter is blessed... while judgmentalism (not a word, I know) and legalism need to be addressed in the church in general, it must be done in a sweet loving way.

I do not believe all and sundry in the church need to hear 'pharisees and scribes, hypocrites!'.

I have to go to work now, have a good day all!

[Geberia]

I think sometimes it is good to judge people. For instance, sometimes you need to judge the people you hang around with, to see if they're having a good influence on you or not. But that kind of judging is for your own good! Our culture is very looks-based and we tend make a snap judgement of people when we first see them. I agree with Steelsheen, legalism should be addressed in a loving way.

[falklands]

Many times the Bible tells us not to judge - but on the other hand, it says that if your brother sins, rebuke him, and Galatians tells what Steelsheen said - to address faults in a loving and gentle way - often the Bible recommends being more this way to elderly people. We can see in Proverbs that in relationships from a father to his young son, however, the father should be more strict. So we can address faults in others - that does not place under judgement, for the Bible recommends it. But many times, as I said, it warns against hypocrisy in this area. In that Galatians quote it also said to "consider yourself" when you address a fault in another. We should not rebuke someone for a fault that we ourselves are committing. But also, people too often assume that we can never have that log taken out of our eye. We can, with Jesus' help.

[Geberia]

Yeah I mean if we never judged anyone except when we ourselves are pure from that sin, there would be no preaching!

[steelsheen]

No, preaching is not judging- at least not in my denomination, not preaching a'la Pastor Krohn.