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Post by Geberia on Apr 20, 2006 16:04:34 GMT -5
What do you think should be done about the growing number of immagrants comming over here, especially the illegals? And do you think all this talk about it in the government/congress will get much done?
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Post by Geberia on Apr 20, 2006 16:05:11 GMT -5
PS. Sorry if I spelled immagration wrong
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Post by grerry on Apr 20, 2006 17:36:08 GMT -5
I think we should go knocking on everybody house and see if they're legal or not. Of course they're legal if they were born in America but, if they weren't born in america ask for their passports.
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Post by steelsheen on Apr 22, 2006 9:29:58 GMT -5
That's totally unfeasible- besides passports are very easy for criminals to fake.
And it's a VISA that allows you to live here.
Anyway, I believe that if they want to come in, fine, go get your green card, take the test, become a citizen, and welcome to the US!
None of this sneaking around, thank you!
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Post by steelsheen on Apr 22, 2006 9:31:09 GMT -5
After all, 'give me your poor, your huddled masses' Does that ring a bell with anyone?
Liberty. Freedom. Capitalism. Welcome to it.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Apr 22, 2006 10:00:56 GMT -5
Here's an article I've written on the topic:
Immigration has, for decades, been a hot-button issue debated on both the state and national levels. I’ve read the articles: Federal Policy for Immigrant Children: Room for Common Ground? by Ron Haskins and Immigration Shuffle . . . and Mood Music by Alan Reynolds and have chosen immigration as the topic of my issue brief. Reynolds makes a compelling argument for Bush’s immigration policy that, upon first reading, almost convinced me to be in favor of the guest worker program. He argues that, “…the president wants to give illegal immigrants a three-year visa if they prove they have a job and pay a fee. These people are here anyway. That doesn't change. But until now they never had to prove they could support their families, pay a fee or leave after a few years. This is a carrot-and-stick plan to document the undocumented and hold them to some standards. It moves part of the underground economy out into the sunlight.” This type of reasoning can be applied to almost any type of illegal activity. You could apply it to the drug industry by making it legal to have a certain amount of drugs because so many people were already doing it. After all, it would move the “underground economy into the sunlight.” What kind of sense does this make? You’ve rewarded those who broke the law…but at least you know now who those people are. He also states that, “Critics say this plan would depress wages for other low-wage workers. Why? They're already here. What changes is that they can no longer stay indefinitely. And they can more easily move up from the shadows of the underground cash economy, where minimum wage laws do not apply.” What this article fails to mention, though, is that the illegal aliens could still become what I call a “resentful underclass.” When you have millions of formerly-illegal aliens that for years have had “you do the jobs we won’t do” shoved in their face for years, they will begin to get angry. They’ll start wondering why they shouldn’t be able to do more than just minimum-wage work and why people won’t hire them for those jobs—after all, they’re nearly American citizens. The people who America will be calling their hard-working “low class” citizens will rise up against the rest of the nation. Perhaps not in any war-like way, but they could very possibly go on strike against their employers and completely shut down half of our economy. “My favorite paper, The Washington Times, asks ‘what effect such mass legalization would have on U.S. efforts to keep out terrorists.’ The answer is that millions of undocumented immigrants who are currently invisible to authorities would become fully documented. Authorities would know exactly who they are and where they work and live. And people who crossed the Canadian or Mexican border without a work visa could then be subject to relatively more scrutiny,” says Reynolds in his article with seemingly-flawless reasoning. He doesn’t say, though, that the Bush guest worker program does not crack down on border security any more than what is happening now. In fact, it would invite terrorists to come in. With so many Mexicans coming into the country and being rewarded for breaking our laws, a terrorist that says he wants to work in America like every other immigrant could get a work visa and operate inside of our country without suspicion. At least without the visa, he would have been an illegal operative within our country instead of one that we ourselves have legalized.
The entire guest worker program can be summed up with the following analogy: It’s like putting a sign on your door which says, “Everyone, come on in!” Neighbors drop in, old friends come and share a snack, and, at first, it seems that your sign was a great idea. That is, until the burglars come. They run through your house, tear furniture, bag silverware, and steal credit cards. You’re completely amazed at the failure because your idea was perfect—people got to drop in and share your house and you had tons of fun. However, you hadn’t thought of the bad people who might come in. It would have been better to have never put that sign on the door.
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Post by awaz on Apr 22, 2006 21:46:20 GMT -5
Very good way of putting it.
Besides, the illegal alliens don't always take jobs that Americans won't take, like landscaping and lawncare.
There are also jobs that TRUE, pull yourself up by the bootstrap Americans will take that illegals won't ("Dirty Jobs").
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