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Post by Catoepia on Aug 13, 2005 17:32:20 GMT -5
Maatshalz, what makes you think that the rapture will not take place?
~Cat
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Post by maatshalz on Aug 17, 2005 22:13:11 GMT -5
Well why are there marters in revoulation if the raptured happened?
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Post by Catoepia on Aug 18, 2005 21:47:49 GMT -5
Umm...I don't get what you're asking. Can you please re-word your Q or something?
~Cat
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Post by Armany on Aug 19, 2005 6:04:37 GMT -5
Well why are there marters in revoulation if the raptured happened? Because new Christians, converted after the Rapture, will be martyred in the Tribulation. People will be saved after the Rapture, maybe even in the last half of it. There will still be some "Christian" people who do not go in the Rapture because they are living fake lives. A lot of people say that they are Christians, but only believe that by doing good things can they gain salvation. These are the people who, after the Rapture (if they are saved) will lead others in the Tribulation world to Christ. Note that I do not know what is going to happen, but I'm just saying how I see it.
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Post by Siko Michael on Aug 19, 2005 18:19:20 GMT -5
Oh Brother....MATT...READ WHAT YOU ARE STINKING TYPING....JEE WISS.....*Rolls Eyes*....anyway...i think this war is getting nothing accomplished in fact its back firing in bushs face...since terrorists from Algeria, Moracco, Saudi Aurabia, Sudan and Europe and other countries are sending their "rookie" terrorists to iraq to fight US troops and get experience and then go back to their home countries and provoke more terrorism and have better experience in doing so.....Bushs plan in iraq has failed, his plan was to destroy terrorism but yet he has made it worse in other areas, in fact terrorism is worse worldwide then when Hussien was in power.....I say we pull out, no more lifes should be wasted for "nothing", Iraq and Vietnam are the same. Useless wars. Bush and Nixon are the same presidents, scandalist and worthless "For those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it"...bush apperently forgot the past....once again let the boys return home to the good ole' USA and get a break, for nothing will be accomplished in iraq, there are to many factions that want power, as soon as we do accomplish something, it will be overrun with terrorists and evil dictators, we have so much here in the US to worry about then saving the iraq people, what about unemployment here, the defeit here, the poor here, the hungry here, the jobs where losing to foreigners here. Lets take care of our own ppl before helping and giving money to third world country, give money to the poor guy down the street, not some iraqi who wants to pick up a gun and fight with his faction leader. I know i have just wasted the strength to type this words, but someone has to stick up for whats right. ;D
SIKO
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Aug 19, 2005 21:50:04 GMT -5
One question....where did you get this information?
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Post by Siko Michael on Aug 19, 2005 21:57:44 GMT -5
NBC Special which was on TODAY...
SIKO
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Post by Chocolate Bar on Aug 20, 2005 0:56:35 GMT -5
Oh Brother....MATT...READ WHAT YOU ARE STINKING TYPING....JEE WISS.....*Rolls Eyes*....anyway...i think this war is getting nothing accomplished in fact its back firing in bushs face...since terrorists from Algeria, Moracco, Saudi Aurabia, Sudan and Europe and other countries are sending their "rookie" terrorists to iraq to fight US troops and get experience and then go back to their home countries and provoke more terrorism and have better experience in doing so.....Bushs plan in iraq has failed, his plan was to destroy terrorism but yet he has made it worse in other areas, in fact terrorism is worse worldwide then when Hussien was in power.....I say we pull out, no more lifes should be wasted for "nothing", Iraq and Vietnam are the same. Useless wars. Bush and Nixon are the same presidents, scandalist and worthless "For those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it"...bush apperently forgot the past....once again let the boys return home to the good ole' USA and get a break, for nothing will be accomplished in iraq, there are to many factions that want power, as soon as we do accomplish something, it will be overrun with terrorists and evil dictators, we have so much here in the US to worry about then saving the iraq people, what about unemployment here, the defeit here, the poor here, the hungry here, the jobs where losing to foreigners here. Lets take care of our own ppl before helping and giving money to third world country, give money to the poor guy down the street, not some iraqi who wants to pick up a gun and fight with his faction leader. I know i have just wasted the strength to type this words, but someone has to stick up for whats right. ;D SIKO The soldiers over there don't agree with you. Reenlistment rates are on the rise.
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Post by Siko Michael on Aug 20, 2005 11:00:47 GMT -5
Dont agree with me?...they are being Re-enlisted to stay over there longer by the GOVERNMENT......i assume you watch FOX...ROFL
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Post by GDL on Aug 20, 2005 12:05:12 GMT -5
no, this is a voluntary war.
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Post by Siko Michael on Aug 20, 2005 12:12:49 GMT -5
voluntary war? uh...the troops dont PICK when they stay at home or go to war the government tells them once they enlist and then the Government pretty much owns them.
SIKO
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Post by Armany on Aug 20, 2005 20:37:11 GMT -5
voluntary war? uh...the troops dont PICK when they stay at home or go to war the government tells them once they enlist and then the Government pretty much owns them. SIKO Yeah, and whenever the troops enlist in the military, they aren't really obligated to go to war. It's just that the big, bad US government actually wants to use the armed forces, of all things, to go to war. It's ridiculous, isn't it? But seriously, what could you possibly be thinking when you enlist. That you're not going to be used in military operations if a war ever occurs? That's ludicrous. When you enlist in the military, you are bound to sacrifice everything, including your life, to protect America, which means going overseas. Quite frankly, if you don't think you're going to be called upon to fight if you're in the military and a war happens, then you shouldn't be in there in the first place, because you'd have to be stupid to not understand that. Just like this Sheehan lady, staging a protest in front of Bush's Texas because her son died in Iraq. I can see if she doesn't agree with the war, but to blame Bush because her son voluntarily enlisted in the military, where death is always a factor, that's just nuts.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Aug 20, 2005 23:38:00 GMT -5
Good show, Armany!
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Post by maatshalz on Aug 23, 2005 13:28:34 GMT -5
i got a question (when do we get the iraq police force up and running?)
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Aug 24, 2005 0:00:18 GMT -5
Uuuuh, I'm guessing you mean their military.
It's growing, and we're over there training them so that THEY can take care of settling matters in their country. No one wants the boys in uniform home more than I do, but to bring them home now would be DISASTEROUS to our mission.
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Post by Geberia on Aug 24, 2005 11:08:35 GMT -5
Yes, becuase the Iraquis would have no government and it would be ripe for another dictator to take control. So even if going into Iraq was a bad idea (as some think it was, but not me), now that we're in there we can't give up so easily.
i also think its a blessing in disguise that all the rookie terrorists are being sent to Iraq. Send them there where they can get killed by our military, is what I say. Better than dispersing all around the globe, having them all in Iraq makes them easier to fight.
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Post by maatshalz on Sept 16, 2005 15:29:33 GMT -5
what about afghanistan? weren't we there in the first place???
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Post by Geberia on Sept 17, 2005 10:50:32 GMT -5
What do you mean?
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Post by GDL on Sept 17, 2005 11:00:41 GMT -5
We r just helpin Afghanistan now. No war there. We r making sure for them that the Taliban is non existant there ne more.
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Post by Aslan the Great Lion on Oct 19, 2005 18:53:52 GMT -5
I think we should just get rid of Suddam now. Forget the trial. We know he is guilty. It is just all the people that love him and say he needs a trial so he can get off free becasue he gets a million dollar lawyer. Just let the people deal with him, he dealt a lot with the people.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Oct 19, 2005 23:22:01 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's good for the Iraqis to take out their vengance on him and try out their new judicial system.
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Post by falklands on Oct 20, 2005 9:59:31 GMT -5
Everyone knows he is not going to get by innocent, and it would be a stain on the judicial system to simply execute and punish him untried.
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Post by gynovia on Oct 20, 2005 10:16:28 GMT -5
its funny that he'll be the first one to try out the new system. kind of ironic how that goes
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Post by Aslan the Great Lion on Oct 20, 2005 16:07:31 GMT -5
I can bet almost anything that when the trial "finally" starts, that it will take months, if not years. Then once he is found guilty his lawyers will appeal which will take more years and I bet by the time all the appeals are up and he has to be executed he will already be dead by old age and justice was not served.
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Post by falklands on Oct 20, 2005 16:10:01 GMT -5
...Sort of like what happened with Slobodan Milosevich.
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