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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 2:55:41 GMT -5
Hey all, I wanted to talk politics for a sec. There are many names being floated around of people who might run for President in 2008. Names mentioned are: Dems. Hillary Clinton  John Kerry John Edwards Brad Henry (the governor of Oklahoma) Michael Moore  (Sorry, but I must display my obvious political bias. Sorry for any hurt feelings.) Repubs. John Ellis "Jeb" Bush Rudy Guilliani John McCain VP Cheney Newt Gengrich Bill Frist Bill Owens (governor of Colorado) I personally would like to see General Tommy Franks, Ret., U.S. Army to run. I don't know anything about his domestic policies yet, but I know he would be a good follow up to Bush on the War on Terror. I also like the sound of JEB 08!!!  What do you think? Who would you support out of the names mentioned above? If none, post who you would support that I didn't mention.  |
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 3:42:10 GMT -5
I believe that Evan Bayh(Senator-Indiana) will run on the democrat ticket. and Bill Frist(Senator-Tennessee) will most likely run on the rep. ticket, they are both young and new faces. Also note Hililary Clinton Will be a MORONIC Choice for the dems If she ran i would be completely for the republican ticket(I dont care if a monkey and cat run on the ticket). Oddly enough i will able to vote in 08 ;D. I would to see john edwards return on the dem ticket but i dont see a repeat.. I would also cheer on John McCain for prez if he ran(i was for him in 2000). As for John Kerry he is DONE..... D-U-N
Chickenwing Major
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Post by Triphus (Titanian) on Jan 23, 2005 11:39:15 GMT -5
Personally I don't think that VP Cheney will run because he is so old and unhealthy.
I'm definitely for a Jeb Bush '08! ;D
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 15:26:14 GMT -5
I agree on Cheney (plus, he's too much of a Neo-Con for me!)
I would LOVE to see Jeb run, but, I really don't think he will.
Chickenwing,
I didn't think about the Senator from Indiana. Also another Dem. who could run is Blanche Lincoln from Arkansas. And Joe Lieberman, Senator from Conn. Sen. Lieberman would be a good choice for the Dems.
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:00:46 GMT -5
I dont believe lieberman will run again, he just doesnt get enough support and he is getting up there in age.
also the dems may want to think about Obama the senator from illionis he is a real popular guy. the reps could think about arnold swarchgegger if a new amendment passed that all us citizen coud become prez. YOU ARE A GIRLIE MAN!!!
Chickenwing Major
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:02:59 GMT -5
NO!!!! NOT ARNOLD PLEASE NOT ARNOLD!!! Ok, sorry. First off, AMERICAN BORN PRESIDENTS ONLY, thank you. Second, he's tooooooo liberal. Obama . . .scary 
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:05:16 GMT -5
i know td... im just making fun of him ;D.... AMERICAN BORN PREZ ONLY!!!!
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Post by Triphus (Titanian) on Jan 23, 2005 16:13:15 GMT -5
Hey I can't believe how well Arnold is shaping up California. They've been getting a lot of money back.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah. But giving out licenses to illegal immigrants . . . I don't like that.
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:16:13 GMT -5
AGREED!!!!! |
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:17:47 GMT -5
Finally, we agree on something |
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:21:28 GMT -5
Holy Cow we agree apon something(duck the sky is falling) Well I still like Evan Bayh for the dems, and most likely Bill Frist for the rep(Gulini has some mafia history, not good). I would like to see John Edwards and John McCain run though |
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:24:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like Guliani too well. He was at Donald Trump's wedding (if that doesn't tell you something.)
The bad thing about Frist, is he lacks an overwhelming abundance of personality. . .
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:32:47 GMT -5
yea that is true about frist but he would make a good candidate, i also forget about gov. matt rimney of mass. he may run for the rep.... I would love McCain to run myself... i would be for him and probably vote for him(since i can in 08)
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:34:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Mitt Romney could run (he's too liberal) and so could NY Gov. George Pataki (another liberal.)
I don't know if McCain could pull of the Republican nomination. He's lost a lot of Republican support.
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:37:29 GMT -5
Yes, McCain has lost some support, I would be for him though if he ran he would be old though(72) in 08.. so i dont think he would take the nomination....
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 16:39:16 GMT -5
BTW: Tommy Franks is from OK!!
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 23, 2005 16:46:00 GMT -5
Question why are u so for tommy franks?  |
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 23, 2005 17:05:51 GMT -5
Dunno. I just think that after Bush we need a good, strong defender for the War on Terror. Franks would be good. I also want somebody GOOD from Oklahoma to run for President.
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Post by maatshalz on Jan 23, 2005 17:42:40 GMT -5
I would like john edwards, cause he is for the middle class people and for edjucation. (misspelled)
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Post by Armany on Jan 24, 2005 10:08:05 GMT -5
I don't know if Tommy Franks would get it, TD. A good choice, but he seems a little old.
Cheney probably is too old too, and you have to worry about his health.
Another idea that's been thrown around is a possible Condoleeza Rice-candidacy. She'd certainly garner the womens' vote, but I'd have to wonder if many Conservative men would abdicate the party at the thought of that. I'd certainly vote for her over that idio-*cough, cough* ;D- I mean Democrat, Hillary Clinton. I might even vote for her over a male Democratic candidate, due mostly to moral reasons. It's something to talk about...
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 24, 2005 11:37:12 GMT -5
True, Armany. I just don't think that Condi could beat Hillary Clinton. From this day until November of 2008, Hillary's going to try and portray herself as a Conservative (because Conservatives win in America.) She's going to vote Conservative almost every step of the way, just to make her record look good. Also, another issue, will Hillary still be well-known enough to run? Think about it, 8 years since Bill Clinton was President (in 2008.) There are also rumors that Rudi Gulliani may run for the Senate against her in '06. If she's defeated, then she could lose popularity. I don't know about Condi . . . too much of a Neo-Conservative for me. I'm a hard core, Tom Coburn, Conservative kind of guy (Tom Coburn is a newly elected Senator from OK.) (Yeah, Franks is kind of old, but Reagan was older . . . ) |
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Jan 24, 2005 11:38:54 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Bill Clinton wants to be Secretary General of the U.N, sssssssscccccccaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy |
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Post by Siko Michael on Jan 24, 2005 16:59:05 GMT -5
Hillary and Condi are u guys INSANE!!!! oh.... sorry but women running for prez is NOT popular for example Mondale ran against Reagan in 1984 with Ferraro(a women) as his VP candidate and he GOT SLAUGHTERED and he only won one state and DC. people just are not for a women prez I see the first Colored prez before a women prez. |
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Post by Armany on Jan 24, 2005 18:40:18 GMT -5
All right, guys, just a conversation starter, not a Presidential endorsement. But, for many Conservatives, voting for a woman (if there were two) would be a no brainer if you have a Republican and a Democrat face-to-face. I didn't say, Chickenwing, that there would be many people that would vote for a woman on either side, but what if that were the only choice? An unlikely scenario, but still remotely possible in the political Wheel of Fortune that will occur from now until '08.
Also, assuming that there are two men as President, I say that right now the GOP's best bet is to groom either a Cabinet member (unlikely), a young Senator (like Frist), or a national hero (like Giuliani). The one problem that I have with Giuliani is that he's a very liberal man, albeit an icon after 9-11. So, I'd say Frist right now, though that's subject to change with the political tides (in like a week, then).
Also, on a deceptively conservative Liberal like Hillary, there is one lesson to be learned: That of John Kerry. Kerry tried to position himself in the center, but his liberal attitudes plagued him throughout the campaign, and in the end, there was no room for the Jack of all trades. His "big-tent" policies tried to garner the moderates while keeping his Socialist-Communist...I mean "liberal"...base. It didn't work, due to the votes of the Conservative-Christians out there. The lesson to be learned: You can't preach moderation while you support such immoral things as abortion and gay-marriage. This will be a thorn in Hillary's side as she will inevitably pose the greatest threat to Reps. and, ultimately, America. Whatever lies she can muster to downplay her liberalism will always be hindered by the afore-mentioned issues that are opposed so vehemently by Christians.
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