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Post by New Titania (TD) on Sept 17, 2006 14:14:46 GMT -5
Well?
I'm still a Bush supporter, so I have voted "Yes."
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Post by Geberia on Sept 18, 2006 14:13:39 GMT -5
Yes. I believe he is a fine man, a patriot, and one who will defend our nation as much as possible.
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Post by LilyJ on Sept 19, 2006 16:09:13 GMT -5
I never liked him much to begin with. I supported him mainly because he was a lesser of two evils choice both elections, but we could definately use better!
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Post by gynovia on Sept 19, 2006 17:02:39 GMT -5
He still has my vote.
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Post by LilyJ on Sept 23, 2006 22:20:42 GMT -5
I'd just like to see a more intelligent leader who doesn't - excuse the term - BS around as much.
Personally, I think we've never been in more need of a leader like Roosevelt (well, besides during Roosevelt's presidency, of course....). But that's jsut personal opinion.
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Post by steelsheen on Sept 24, 2006 10:45:46 GMT -5
Roosevelt? Which one?
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Sept 24, 2006 19:29:06 GMT -5
I'd just like to see a more intelligent leader who doesn't - excuse the term - BS around as much. Personally, I think we've never been in more need of a leader like Roosevelt (well, besides during Roosevelt's presidency, of course....). But that's just personal opinion. If you mean FDR...he is definitely not the man for the job at this time. He was a socialist and a kiss-up to the Soviets. He should have gotten America into WWII a lot sooner--but instead, he waited until we got bombed in Hawaii. A more intelligent leader who doesn't 'bs' around as much? Bush may not be the most motivating speaker the country's ever seen...but he has been a good leader who has kept America safe for 5 years after the worst attack in our history. |
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Post by LilyJ on Sept 30, 2006 15:39:32 GMT -5
His reasoning was sound, though - WWII wasn't really our war until Japan pulled us into it. The moment if affected us, however, he had us in there and turning the tide. He also managed to keep the morale up and the people more or less united through the whole thing - which I doubt we'll EVER see in our time. That might be the issue of increasing stupidity and mass mentality, though.
Militarily, sure, he's kept us safe - but, not to agree with the media, the economy isn't doing so hot. It seems like he's focused exclusively on the war.
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Post by nella on Sept 30, 2006 16:34:04 GMT -5
I think he is a good leader, but some of his decisions have not been as wise as they could have been. All in all, he has lost a great deal of popularity, but it is mostly because of the media.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Oct 1, 2006 0:16:59 GMT -5
Prove it. Gas prices are down, unemployment is down, inflation is down--it's getting a lot better.
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Post by steelsheen on Oct 1, 2006 14:09:55 GMT -5
I have a feeling about this. The economy is changing, not necessarily getting worse. It's different. We're a Wal-mart economy.
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Post by LilyJ on Oct 1, 2006 16:09:56 GMT -5
What do you mean by a Wal-Mart economy?
TD - I'll be happy when the gas prices drop under $2.00 (but I'm biased because I have to buy gas... lol). Maybe it is getting better - time will tell. So far, however, we've been investing millions in the war and neglecting internal affairs. Sure, we're sort of obligated, as the most powerful nation in the world, to become a global police force of sorts (though we really should've gotten the support of the UN first), but our own country should still come first. What's the point in keeping the country safe if we end up crippled economically?
I'll cover my back here, however - you know a lot more about politics than I do. I'm just bringing up the stuff I've wondered about.
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Post by steelsheen on Oct 1, 2006 19:29:47 GMT -5
I mean that we want more for less. Even to the sacrificing of quality and cost effectivness and at times morals.
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Oct 1, 2006 19:34:36 GMT -5
I understand what you mean about gas prices--I've been a long-time critic of our nation's oil policies: buy from our enemies to supply our cars. It makes no sense. I propose (and most conservatives agree) that we drill in OUR OWN nation so that we're not dependent on people who want to kill us. Gas prices go down, security goes up, unemployment goes down...win-win-win.
We did have the support of the UN. In fact, one of the reasons we went to war was to enforce a Security Council resolution that said that Saddam had to "disarm or be disarmed." America (led by GWB) was one of the only nations in the world that had the guts to actually stand behind their threats. A month later, Saddam is out of power.
Now to get started on the UN--last week, President Bush spoke to the General Assembly and gave a moving speech about freedom throughout the world. He was met with only polite applause. Mahmoud Ahmadinejab (or something like that), who is the 'president' of our mortal enemy, Iran, came and spoke to the UN soon after and talked about how his nuclear energy was only for peaceful purposes, how he wanted to obliterate Israel, etc, etc...and he got resounding applause. The day after, Hugo Chavez ('president'/despot of Venezeuala) spoke at the UN. He said "The devil stood here yesterday--I can still smell the sulphur." He kept using this imagery about our President and bashed our government...but ended by saying he was a "friend of the American people" and that he wished we'd pick a smarter president next time around. AMAZING...this despot is saying the same thing the DEMOCRATS have been saying for a while. I guess dictators need friends too. Anyway, Chavez was too met with resounding applause. My point--THE UN IS WORTHLESS, Anti-American, Anti-Semetic, and needs to be booted out of New York.
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Post by Geberia on Oct 2, 2006 16:21:46 GMT -5
Heehee, couldn't agree more, TD.
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Post by gynovia on Oct 2, 2006 20:18:11 GMT -5
My point--THE UN IS WORTHLESS, Anti-American, Anti-Semetic, and needs to be booted out of New York. yeah, along with Mrs. Clinton  |
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Post by Frisianland on Oct 22, 2006 7:03:11 GMT -5
Nay I don't like Bush! It is probably because I do not know him like most americans, because British media criticises him alot.
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Post by nella on Oct 23, 2006 12:19:49 GMT -5
Nay I don't like Bush! It is probably because I do not know him like most americans, because British media criticises him alot. And our media doesn't? ;D ~Nella |
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Post by LilyJ on Oct 23, 2006 14:57:39 GMT -5
Haha, good point. Then again, the media could find something wrong with the Pope (oh wait... they HAVE!!!!). I guess Bush just got stuck with a lot of junk and is dealing with it as best he can... kind've a Herbert Hoover....  lol But he's not decisive enough, and he is focusing too much on Iraq when he needs to keep everything that's going on in mind. He's decent, but not the best man for the job. |
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Post by Geberia on Oct 25, 2006 13:59:48 GMT -5
I am only disapointed in him in the area of immigration. But, I think he is a decent president and certainly better than the alternatives  |
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Post by LilyJ on Oct 26, 2006 19:59:45 GMT -5
That's definately true. Ugh, imagine... Gore would probably have everyone living in caves to prevent global warming! |
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Post by nella on Oct 31, 2006 19:37:09 GMT -5
[quote author=lilyjUgh, imagine... Gore would probably have everyone living in caves to prevent global warming! [/quote] Haha! Does anyone know what's going on with Kerry right now? I heard something about him saying something degrading to a soldier about the war. I heard that everyone is in an uproar. |
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Post by heartofgold on Oct 31, 2006 23:11:01 GMT -5
Well he basically said if you work hard and get good grades you could get a good job. If not you get stuck in Iraq.
Now, that being just about the stupidest thing the man has ever said, he's got the entire Democratic party and the media in an uproar trying to smooth this over while the right wingers are tearing into him.
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Post by Geberia on Nov 1, 2006 11:05:41 GMT -5
He has a wonderful timing on this one - a week before the election.
Nella, if you want to hear his comment, go to the Rebelution, they have a video of it.
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Post by steelsheen on Nov 1, 2006 18:55:06 GMT -5
Apperantly Kerry misread his script- he was supposed to say you would end up like George Bush and make mistakes like Iraq.
Still a stupid comment.
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lol But he's not decisive enough, and he is focusing too much on Iraq when he needs to keep everything that's going on in mind. He's decent, but not the best man for the job.
