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Post by heartofgold on Feb 26, 2006 23:36:59 GMT -5
Well, I figured we had to many religious debates going on, so we might as well get a good political one going ;D.
I'd say yes. We're in a war, we're allowed to wiretap. The enemy doesn't have rights to privacy.
Just to see if anyone here disagreed (which I doubt somehow, seeing as everybody seems to agree on everything).
Oh, and you don't necessarily have to live in a tree to pick #3. I'm sure that was bothering you.
EDIT: Hold up, I meant no, not yes. I hate staying up late.
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Post by Geberia on Mar 1, 2006 14:10:36 GMT -5
Yes, agreed. Even in peacetime, if people are suspected to be talking with terrorists, it should be tapped.
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Post by falklands on Mar 1, 2006 14:46:39 GMT -5
***DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MODE*** Look, if you want to have the CIA knocking on the door in the middle of the night, then you can go call someone in the Middle East and start having a facetious (but on the outside serious) talk about terrorist operations in the United States! They'll be pinning you to the ground before you know it, and you wouldn't even have commited a crime! Plus, the present administration does more than wiretap terrorists. It monitors it's political enemies, and those who simply oppose it out of policy issues. It has wiretapped Greenpeace, even! I wonder just how many people the Bush administration has wiretapped simply for the sake of political opposition! Tomorrow they may be listening in to your private conversations! /***DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MODE*** You know, I agree with heartofgold. ;D Fire away at my facetious post  |
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Post by Armany on Mar 1, 2006 16:06:19 GMT -5
It depends. If we're wiretapping only suspected terrorists, then that's fine. But just wiretapping for the sake of wiretapping (like what HoG would do if he were President), that's wrong.
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Post by gynovia on Mar 1, 2006 16:10:54 GMT -5
I think wiretapping in cases of war and terrorism, is fine, and IMO, spying on suspected terrorists is okay too.
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Post by heartofgold on Mar 2, 2006 14:23:56 GMT -5
Well, this is a war. Saying this is wrong is like saying code breakers in WW II were invading s privacy. No, if I were president, I think I could withstand the power and not wiretap everyone. (ha! fat chance).
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Post by falklands on Mar 2, 2006 14:32:24 GMT -5
It depends. If we're wiretapping only suspected terrorists, then that's fine. But just wiretapping for the sake of wiretapping (like what HoG would do if he were President), that's wrong. Hey, everyone! Don't elect Heartofgold to the CT Presidency or he'll wiretap everyone! Wait...how can you wiretap people on the internet???..... |
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Post by heartofgold on Mar 2, 2006 23:58:32 GMT -5
Oh I've got my methods Falklands... I've got my methods....
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Post by Armany on Mar 3, 2006 16:25:25 GMT -5
Do you doubt his spying prowess, falklands? Then you shall be the first to succumb to his ruthless surveillance program, which will gather data on the meals you eat for breakfast, among other ciritcal intelligence factors. ;D lol
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Post by falklands on Mar 3, 2006 16:32:05 GMT -5
I can tell you what I eat for breakfast anyway...Milk, oats, cheerios, and rice krispies! ;D
Well, I've got my methods...
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Post by New Titania (TD) on Mar 3, 2006 19:25:57 GMT -5
Armany, I TOLD YOU not to tell HoG our methods.....drat....
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Post by Armany on Mar 4, 2006 8:43:09 GMT -5
LOL Me and my big mouth!
Loose lips may sink ships, but dead men tell no tales... that makes you wonder what'll happen to me. ;D
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Post by falklands on Mar 4, 2006 14:19:36 GMT -5
LOL Me and my big mouth! Loose lips may sink ships, but dead men tell no tales... that makes you wonder what'll happen to me. ;D At the bottom of the sea in the U.S.S. TD/Armany Prez/Veep, I suppose... |
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Post by gynovia on Mar 7, 2006 14:13:02 GMT -5
At the bottom of the sea in the U.S.S. TD/Armany Prez/Veep, I suppose... suicide is NOT the answer!!!.......no matter how bad your plans are going to take over the world...... ;D |
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Post by Triphus (Titanian) on Mar 7, 2006 16:51:42 GMT -5
Um i think they were referring to murder.......
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Post by falklands on Mar 8, 2006 13:47:33 GMT -5
You've hit the crux of the Matter, Triphus ;D
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Post by gynovia on Mar 8, 2006 15:38:46 GMT -5
Um i think they were referring to murder....... oh...  ...um, well, murder isn't he answer either! ;D
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Post by Armany on Mar 8, 2006 16:13:15 GMT -5
oh... ...um, well, murder isn't he answer either! ;D Try and tell that to HoG and his greedy minions! I'm not even really sure what "minions" are. LOL I think I've used it correctly. |
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Post by falklands on Mar 8, 2006 18:06:47 GMT -5
Well, don't include me in the "minions" bit, well, actually don't tell him that. I've got bigger plans that I don't want him to know about...
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Post by gynovia on Mar 8, 2006 21:03:28 GMT -5
oh... ...um, well, murder isn't he answer either! ;D Try and tell that to HoG and his greedy minions! okay...... HoG! ( and your greedy minions) murder is not the answer!!! |
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Post by Triphus (Titanian) on Mar 8, 2006 22:25:42 GMT -5
lol Well fine Gynovia......if you think your so smart then what is the answer?  ?  |
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Post by Geberia on Mar 9, 2006 11:42:20 GMT -5
for some strange reason, a minion always reminds me of little bits of onions. Don't ask why!!! ;D
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Post by falklands on Mar 9, 2006 13:58:08 GMT -5
So, I can imagine heartofgold doing a French accent, saying, "come here, my leetle onions!..."
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Post by gynovia on Mar 9, 2006 13:59:39 GMT -5
lol Well fine Gynovia......if you think your so smart then what is the answer? ? ah! okay fine. death is not the answer..... Jesus is. ooooh, can't argue with that one! ;D jk |
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Post by falklands on Mar 9, 2006 14:04:08 GMT -5
Oho, yes I can. Now we've become vague about the actual dilemma to which murder wasn't the answer (actually in TD's and heartofgold's mind it is ;D). The dilemma seemed to be what would happen to Armany, now that he's let loose the secrets of *their* methods. Jesus is the answer? Yeah, what a great punishment for Armany ;D
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...um, well, murder isn't he answer either! ;D
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